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		<title>Demons &amp; Shofar</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t believe in literal, physical demons&#8230; In fact, I bet even those that believe in demons, don&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re actually made of stuff, of atoms, for example. People that believe in demons typically believe in a &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221;, in which these &#8220;spiritual things&#8221; happen. What is this &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221;? And supposing such a realm [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in literal, physical demons&#8230; In fact, I bet even those that believe in demons, don&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re actually made of <em>stuff</em>, of atoms, for example. People that believe in demons typically believe in a &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221;, in which these &#8220;spiritual things&#8221; happen. What is this &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221;? And supposing such a realm exists, how does it influence the physical realm?</p>
<p><strong>Sketching out my views</strong></p>
<p>The &#8220;spiritual&#8221; side of humanity is, to me, something about a way of life, a way of being in this world. Something I don&#8217;t want to go into in this post. I will just resort to hoping that everyone would agree the interface between the &#8220;spiritual&#8221; side of humanity and the real, physical side of it, is in the <em>mind</em>.</p>
<p>Shofarians might believe that the &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221; is something completely independent of the mind: if we were all &#8220;mindless&#8221; matter, there would still be a spiritual realm. I don&#8217;t believe that. I believe the spiritual side of humanity is dependent upon the mind and its experiences, beliefs, and perspectives of the world&#8230; I believe that demons are <em>in</em> the mind, a construct <em>of</em> the mind. And so I agree that they <em>can</em> influence the person that believes in them. Beliefs can influence behaviour, as well as how observations are interpreted. </p>
<p>Consider for example the <a href="http://www.stanfordalumni.org/erc/reunions/rh07cwoqs_reader.html?content_instance_id=201130">history and current research about pain, from the description of a course by a Dr Sean Mackay</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Pain is a universal human experience. Ancient civilizations attributed pain to demons and curses, the Middle Ages began to see evidence that pain is involved with the brain and nervous system, and Leonardo da Vinci developed the idea that the spinal cord transmits sensations to the brain. Today, Dr. Sean Mackey, who leads a multidisciplinary team of researchers at Stanford, carries that torch forward with groundbreaking studies in functional neuroimaging of pain. One study in particular that he will discuss involves the use of real time learned brain control which offers the promise of changing the abnormal pathology in the brain of patients with chronic pain.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I&#8217;ve also heard (hearsay, [citation needed]) that people used to believe the &#8220;mind&#8221;, that thing which has thoughts and pulls the &#8220;strings&#8221; of the body, existed in the forms of spirits dwelling in the <em>empty</em> regions of the head, in the cavities. Or what about the things that were considered as taking place in the heart, an idea that lives on in our metaphorical language? We have since learned that this is not the case, having learned that the <em>brain</em> controls these functions and processes the signals from our senses.</p>
<p>Does this take away anything of the beauty and truths that can be found in scripture from two thousand years ago? No, I don&#8217;t think so. The stories in the Bible are, to me, primarily about &#8220;profound truths&#8221;, <em>not</em> about science. (The Bible is not a science textbook.) We might have much more knowledge these days, we might have evolved a radically different culture, but in terms of being <em>human</em>, we are really no different from the ancients. Similarly, the profound truths have not changed. (Yes, something of a logical fallacy, because I have that by definition: those that change aren&#8217;t profound truths! <img src='http://www.thinktoomuch.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) The value of the stories is found in what they <em>mean</em> and what they stand for.</p>
<p>Real Live Preacher made a video clip titled <a href="http://reallivepreacher.com/rlparchive/node/862">Reading the Bible #6 (Demons &#038; the 1st Century Worldview)</a> as part of his series on <a href="http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/01/28/how-to-read-the-bible-rerun/">How to Read the Bible</a> wherein he provided advice to those interested in doing so. His take on demons, for those that are interested:</p>
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<p>Moving on&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>The Power of Demons</strong></p>
<p>So, in one sense, I don&#8217;t &#8220;believe in demons&#8221;. However, in another sense, if working with a broad enough ontology, I&#8217;d be happy to agree that they <em>exist</em> &#8212; in the sense that a &#8220;demon&#8221; is a concept which has a tangible <em>influence</em>. As mentioned above. (Does &#8220;love&#8221; <em>exist</em>? It is a concept&#8230; not a physical entity.) As I mentioned, and as RLP seems to touch on in his clip, having a <em>belief</em> in demons is what gives the &#8220;demon&#8221; power. You find what you look for&#8230;</p>
<p>Thus, I think that by not believing in demons, they no longer bother you. For &#8220;conservative&#8221; Christians, that should be achievable by believing that Jesus &#8220;defeated them all&#8221;? Alternatively, pick up a good dose of skepticism or have more of a &#8220;modern scientific worldview&#8221;. To repeat myself: I sincerely believe the best way to exorcise demons is simply to stop believing in them, or if you are too fearful of that, by focusing on the positive and letting it drown out the negative: apathy towards demons.</p>
<p>So now you should have a good idea of how I see things&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Implications for Shofar&#8217;s PR</strong></p>
<p>Many of my posts attempt to explain conflicting cultures to one another. This post is one of those. I believe I&#8217;ve sketched out not only my own beliefs, but that these beliefs adequately represent those of the majority my non-Shofarian friends, or even the general belief of the majority of the fragment of humanity that had the privilege to get a modern education. (Because yes, we&#8217;re all privileged.)</p>
<p>This section attempts to explain the implications of these beliefs for the way <em>the world</em> sees Shofar and similar churches. I ask that Shofarians understand this section in that light, as an opportunity to understand some of the criticism and concern that is directed towards the organisation you&#8217;ve chosen to entrust your spirituality to&#8230;</p>
<p>With regards to <a href="http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/10/31/pepper-spraying-streakers-at-shofar/">Fred&#8217;s letter and press release about the recent streaker and pepper-spraying incident</a>, a number of my friends agree that streakers were being childish, irresponsible or criminal, but their alarm at the news was mostly towards how Fred May responded to it in that letter and press release, about how he dragged demons and conspiracy theories into it. One friend wrote, and I&#8217;m translating to (imperfect) English:</p>
<blockquote><p>Wow I&#8217;m out of touch with what these people believe. These days I pretty much feel &#8220;live and let live&#8221;, but these kinds of ideas just seem so unhealthy</p></blockquote>
<p>Shofarians, understood in the light of how we view these things, can you understand why we&#8217;re worried about it? Francois Malan (oh, I know two Francois Malan&#8217;s, this one is not in Shofar and is currently doing a PhD in the Netherlands) is somewhat more outspoken, and wrote the following (in Afrikaans, translation below):</p>
<blockquote><p>Ek sien Shofar as &#8216;n middeleeuse (&#8220;dark ages&#8221;) denkskool en sekte, wat geen plek het in &#8216;n verligte samelewing nie. Hul praktyke val in presies dieselfde kategorie as aanbidding van toordokters. Al die gepraat van &#8220;intercessors&#8221; en &#8220;demone&#8221; is absoluut verwyderd van enige rasionaliteit en logika, asook van kritiese en vrye denke &#8211; juis die waardes wat &#8216;n universiteit nastreef. Hul brood en botter bestaan uit &#8220;conspiracy theories&#8221;, half-waarhede, en in die ergste gevalle leuens.</p>
<p>Hierdie studente het waarskynlik ook &#8216;n ernstige probleem met Shofar, maar met hul poging om hul minagting vir die kerk te wys, gekoppel aan kinderagtige en onverantwoordelike ekshibisionisme, het hulle vir Shofar &#8216;n groot guns bewys. Die studente het krimineel opgetree, en moet gestraf word. Niks kan hul gedrag regverdig nie, en was in uiters swak styl. Maar Shofar behoort, volgens my, nie deur die Universiteit ondersteun te word nie. Hulle is onder ons grondwet vry om hul geloof te beoefen, maar as daar enige sprake is van &#8220;okkulte aktiwiteite op kampus&#8221; dan is húlle die vernaamste oortreders.</p>
<p>Ek voel sterk hieroor&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>My translation:</p>
<p><em>I see Shofar as a medieval school-of-thought and sect, which has no place in an enlightened society. Their practises fall in exactly the same category as the worship of witch doctors. All the talk of &#8220;intercessors&#8221; and &#8220;demons&#8221; is absolutely removed from any rationality or logic, as well as from critical and free thinking &#8212; exactly the values that a university strives towards. Their bread-and-butter consists of conspiracy theories, half-truths, and in the worst cases lies.</p>
<p>These students [the streakers] probably also have a serious problem with Shofar, but with their attempt to show their contempt for the church, in conjunction with their childish and irresponsible exhibitionism, did Shofar a huge favour. The students acted criminally, and must be punished. Nothing can justify their behaviour, and it was in really bad taste. But Shofar should, in my opinion, not be supported by the University. Under our constitution, they are free to practice their faith, but if there is any talk of &#8220;occult activity on campus&#8221;, then <strong>they</strong> are the primary transgressors.</p>
<p>I feel strongly about this&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Shofarians, can you understand Francois&#8217; reaction? Can you understand that, from the perspective explained above, if we were to say that demons and the occult <em>exists</em>, in the sense that believing in it creates it and gives it power, <em>then yes, we would agree there are indeed demons in Stellenbosch&#8230;</em> however, more importantly, we would then be forced to conclude that:</p>
<p><strong>it was Fred May that brought them to our town</strong>.</p>
<p>Can you see how that conclusion is reached? Can you understand why we would feel that way? Aren&#8217;t you <em>also</em> antagonistic towards people that you believe brought demons to your home town?</p>
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		<title>Pepper-Spraying Streakers at Shofar</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nearly two weeks ago, six male students decided to have some fun for themselves by barging into a church service naked. Four were successfully blocked from reaching the auditorium, but two made it all the way&#8230; and opened fire with pepper spray. (UPDATE^2: this source, which claims the pepper spray may have belonged to the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly two weeks ago, six male students decided to have some fun for themselves by barging into a church service naked. Four were successfully blocked from reaching the auditorium, but two made it all the way&#8230; and opened fire with pepper spray. <em>(<strong>UPDATE^2:</strong> <a href="http://www.marklives.com/wordpress/2008/10/28/shofar-the-naked-students-and-the-spin-machine/">this source</a>, which claims the pepper spray may have belonged to the bouncers, is incorrect.)</em></p>
<p>This story has spread widely, I&#8217;ve been informed about it by about half a dozen people, and received a letter which includes Shofar&#8217;s press release, from three or four different sources. One of my friends (Cobus, can I call you a friend already? <img src='http://www.thinktoomuch.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), a theology student at Tukkies, already wrote an Afrikaans blog post about it earlier this week, titled <a href="http://anderkant.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/fundamentaliste-en-cheap-ateiste/">fundamentaliste en cheap ateïste</a>. The writing of this blog post was prompted by <a href="http://www.shofaronline.org/newsroom/article4.htm">Shofar&#8217;s letter and press release</a>.</p>
<p>And I would like to join Shofar in condemning this despicable act. The childish and irresponsible exhibitionism, combined with the pepper spray attack, is most certainly criminal. And they did Shofar a huge favour, because Shofar thrives on this kind of thing.</p>
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<p>Cobus wrote in the second-to-last paragraph of <a href="http://anderkant.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/fundamentaliste-en-cheap-ateiste/">his blog post</a> (please do read the whole thing, if you read Afrikaans):</p>
<blockquote><p>O, en as iemand daai lot van Wilgenhof sien, wens hulle asseblief geluk. Want al wat hulle nou reg gekry het is om die Shofar lot die victims te maak. Enige teoloog wat sy sout werd is sou hulle kon waarsku dat as jy martelare van ekstremistiese groepe maak dan veroorsaak jy simpatie vir hulle, wat op die langduur tot versterking van die groep lei. So, vir daai 6 ouens, as julle idee wat om ontslae te raak van Shofar, geluk! Julle het presies die teenoorgestelde nou aan deelgeneem.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translated:</p>
<p><em>Oh, and if anyone sees that lot from Wilgenhof, please congratulate them. Because all they managed to achieve was to turn the Shofar bunch into victims. Any theologian worth his salt could have warned them that by making martyrs out of an extremist group, you create sympathy for them, which in the long term leads to a strengthening of the group. So, for those six guys, if your idea was to get rid of Shofar, congrats! You&#8217;ve participated in the exact opposite.</em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think their intentions were anywhere <em>near</em> that &#8220;noble&#8221;, I think it is more likely that they are just a bunch of self-centred jerks looking for cheap thrills.</p>
<p>Witness the result in <a href="http://www.shofaronline.org/newsroom/article4.htm">Shofar&#8217;s letter and press release</a> — and read it at that link first if you want it all uninterrupted, this post is the interrupting kind:</p>
<blockquote><p>OCTOBER 29 :2008</p>
<p>Dear Friend</p>
<p>I’ve just been through the most disgusting display of desecration and blasphemy ever. I’m forwarding detail of it in the prepared statement below. We’ve held back with it to give the university authorities time to react, but a week and a half later it’s clear that they don’t feel the need to. Which is why I’m writing to you.</p>
<p><strong>PRESS STATEMENT BY SHOFAR CHURCH</strong></p>
<p>On Sunday 19 October, between 19h00 and 20h00, during the second evening service of Shofar church in Stellenbosch, six stark naked male students rushed into the building bent on disrupting the service.</p>
<p>While four of the men were successfully warded off, two managed to make their way into the auditorium where they attacked shocked church goers with pepper spray. One of them mounted the platform where he disrupted the Face to Face music group who led the time of worship. In the ensuing emergency traumatised church goers, now afflicted with asphyxiation and burning eyes, were evacuated. Several of the elderly and children had to be carried out.</p>
<p>All attempts to subdue and remove the assailants from the scene were met with violent resistance. The response of the police and ADT security service, however, was commendably swift. As a result three of the attackers were arrested while the others managed to escape in a vehicle of which the registration plates were removed. By all accounts the attack appeared to be well planned.</p>
<p>After serving this community for the past sixteen years, we wish to believe this to be an isolated incident. However, we do have a concern for the questions raised by it i.r.o. a perceived climate of intolerance and criminal impunity which is allowed to flourish. For this reason Shofar sent an urgent request to the Dean of Student Affairs at Stellenbosch University to issue an official statement in support of religious freedom, respect for all religious persuasions, and the denunciation of violence and victimisation. Thus far no official response to this request has been forthcoming. The church as chief organiser of the Angus Buchan event at Newlands in September managed to raise a 1000 strong volunteer corps comprising mainly Matie students.</p>
<p>Many students at the university are living lives of exemplary witness for Jesus Christ. And it is this very encouraging trend among students here that makes this incident all the more deplorable. As a church community we are sorely grieved by the blatantly blasphemous attempt to insult and to injure. It certainly points to an alarming degree of moral declension within certain academic circles.</p></blockquote>
<p>I certainly support religious freedom. It&#8217;s the only way. And I&#8217;m glad it sounds like Shofar does the same. Though, I can&#8217;t help but wonder how many Shofarians took part in the mass hysteria that led to the firing of the reporter Deon Maas, when he wrote a column that campaigned for religious freedom? (For those people not aware of that event, I&#8217;ve found <a href="http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jaxonrice/2007/11/19/spreading-the-word-on-satanism/">an English translation of the column that got him fired</a>.)</p>
<p>Thus concludes the part that is the press release. The letter continues:</p>
<blockquote><p>For me personally, this is that one step too far. I and the intercessors sense the hand of God in this. The Holy Spirit wants to alert us to the need to focus our prayers on a stronghold of wickedness in this town that must be broken down in the spirit – NOW! The intercessors at both meetings in the week had visions of the Free Masonry obelisk crumbling under the power of God. The attack left me feeling sexually violated. Of the intercessors had the same sense. The act of horror was aimed at the violation of the bride of Christ. It certainly has the marks of an occultic ritual.</p></blockquote>
<p>For those not aware of the lingo: the way I understand it, intercessors are people that are busy praying to ward off evil in the constant battle between good and evil. Because Stellenbosch, and the world, in the eyes of a church like Shofar, is a spiritual battlefield with demons and angels continually fighting.</p>
<p>Free Masonry&#8230;? Yay conspiracy theories. One Shofarian once explained the whole conspiracy to me&#8230; apparently the Catholic Church is in on it as well. If you go up high enough in the Catholic hierarchy, there are actually a bunch of Satanists at the top, controlling it all, in this cosmic spiritual struggle. Now, I doubt this is official Shofar doctrine. In fact, I welcome complaints that I&#8217;m painting Shofar in a bad light with this (on the grounds that it isn&#8217;t what Shofar believes), because the main point I want to make here is that once you start teaching your congregation conspiracy theories, you certainly have to bear some responsibility if they take it further than you intended. Not so?</p>
<p>Now about feeling &#8220;sexually violated&#8221;: I know some of my friends find this rendering hard to understand and grasp. I also met someone who I&#8217;m sure would freak out at such an &#8220;abuse of emotional language&#8221;, having had first-hand experience of what it is like to be sexually violated, and commenting on how none of the people involved in using this metaphor here have any idea what it really feels like. But&#8230; I don&#8217;t personally have much of a problem with this metaphor.</p>
<p>There are many parallels between the Christian tradition and sexuality or eroticism, a rich and diverse tradition. (Now what was that book that Theo recommended to me the other day? I did note it down somewhere, I&#8217;ll find it. It was about religion, and I think it had &#8220;eroticism&#8221; in the title.) The metaphor of marriage is used in the New Testament as metaphor for the relationship between Jesus and the Church, his Bride.</p>
<p>But then the letter starts to introduce the occult again, hearkening back to the church&#8217;s roots (more on that at the end of this post)&#8230; Every random act of idiocy by students like those involved, gets pulled into a picture sketching out this titanic struggle between the stronghold of wickedness in Stellenbosch, and the intercessors praying against it, led by pastor Fred May. (Dualism. There&#8217;s a blog post on its way about dualism. Give me a few weeks though, please.)</p>
<blockquote><p>I was interceding in the foyer at the time. I ordinarily do it backstage when I’m not ministering, and not usually during the time of worship. But on this particular night the worship was so special. The Holy Spirit was present so palpably that I felt led to pray in the foyer instead. That’s when the attack happened.</p>
<p>The other reason I’m convinced of it being a deliberate, demonically inspired attack was because I received clear warning in this regard by the Lord the previous weekend. I was on my way to Namibia when I felt strongly to alert the pastors and elders of a pending attack – in the evening service – by satanists. That was the previous weekend. For that reason we were mobilised and ready. So while I’m open to have been wrong about the timing, I’m still convinced that it is of spiritual significance in that it is a plan hatched and executed by people who are enemies of the cross of Christ. I too, like the intercessors, feel that the act is somehow symbolically representative of the act of rape – in keeping with the phallic obelisk of Freemasonry. Thence the naked intrusion by 6 naked men at a most intimate moment of worship.</p></blockquote>
<p>And so it becomes a &#8220;demonically inspired attack&#8221;. <em>Clear</em> warning the previous week? How clear? What precisely did Fred alert the pastors and elders the previous week? &#8220;A pending attack by satanists&#8221;? The wording in this paragraph is interesting, though also quite typical. It is quite a normal way for them to communicate. Watch how this technique works:</p>
<p>Fred felt strongly to alert the pastors. But <em>did</em> he? The text doesn&#8217;t actually say that he did, giving enough scope for the credulous to believe God warned Fred in great detail, and he passed on the message to his elders in detail, and they were therefore prepared. At the same time, the text provides enough of a loophole that it wouldn&#8217;t technically be lying, even if Fred didn&#8217;t tell <em>anyone</em> about the warning. <em>Felt strongly to alert them</em> does not mean he actually did. Even the next sentence, &#8220;for that reason we were mobilised and ready&#8221;, does not factually claim he actually told them, just that they were ready because he received word from God.</p>
<p>(Credulous: a word meaning something similar to &#8220;gullible&#8221;, but &#8220;gullible&#8221; to me is negative. I simply mean to neutrally refer to those inclined to believe Fred, as opposed to those inclined to be skeptical.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to have used this bit as an example, I don&#8217;t mean to question the factuality of what this paragraph seems to claim, I only mean to sketch out the communication technique because it is so pervasive. If you learn this communication technique, you can get away with making many more sweeping statements and dubious claims, even ones that are factually untrue, without actually lying. It lets the audience jump to incorrect conclusions, conclusions you point them at, but didn&#8217;t actually give them.</p>
<p>Yes, I recognise subtle word choice and phrases, because I have my own way of dealing in subtle word choices and phrases. I wish more people would call me on it when I do it, rather than jumping on the first interpretation that springs to mind. (/me apologetically winks at Ben, who dislikes word games.) Moving on:</p>
<p>With regards to receiving &#8220;clear warning&#8221; the previous weekend, a skeptic might point out that with the benefit of hindsight, Fred could reinterpret past emotions in new ways to confirm this narrative in his mind, and thereby completely and genuinely believe what he is sharing, while it might actually rather be a case of confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is extremely potent and I&#8217;d suggest an often useful trait in the human psyche. Or in potentially clearer words: we remember the hits and forget the misses — seeing what you want to see, or seeing what you <em>need</em> to see. These biases are big pains when doing science, which needs to be objective, so the scientific method includes numerous techniques to overcome this hurdle of human subjectivity.</p>
<p>And then back to the rape symbolism. Which as I mentioned, I&#8217;m fine with, because I also like using the metaphor (maybe because I have also been fortunate enough to not experience real, physical rape in my life). For example, I find my mind raped by creationism seminars.</p>
<p>But freemasonry? One friend wrote in an IM: &#8220;wtf het die freemasons daarmee uit te waai&#8221;. (WTF do the freemasons have to do with it?) A sentiment which seems to be a theme amongst a number of my friends: &#8220;free masonry? wtf&#8221; &#8220;omw shofar is obsessief oor free masonry&#8221;. I share those three&#8217;s sentiments.</p>
<p><em>What&#8217;s with the freemasonry?</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard about freemasonry many times from Shofarians. The only other time, was&#8230; I think&#8230; one of those two Nicholas Cage conspiracy/treasure hunting movies, &#8220;National Treasure&#8221;? (Yea, I confess, I&#8217;ve seen both.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Consequently it is understandable and expected that the whole incident and its media coverage, the lack of action against the offenders, and the complete lack of outrage on the part of the university or the criminal justice authorities, is to be expected. The offenders even staged a mock appearance at an NG church as a decoy strategy. However, I fail to see how one sexton (Afr. = koster) will stop six grown, determined men armed with pepper spray! It clearly is a ruse.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the light of &#8220;I’m still convinced that it is of spiritual significance in that it is a plan hatched and executed by people who are enemies of the cross of Christ&#8221; and this paragraph, it would seem like the media and the university, and the criminal justice authorities, are all in on the conspiracy. Oh, and the theological faculty, I forgot about that. And the Dutch Reformed church as well, which served as decoy to make it look like this wasn&#8217;t a targeted attack on the <em>one true church</em>? Or no, sorry, maybe they are all just puppets in the spiritual war, and their own skepticism about the big conspiracy theory makes them unaware of how they are being manipulated by demons? Is that about right? (Say, might there be some Catholics in Stellenbosch? <img src='http://www.thinktoomuch.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m being reactionary, and I&#8217;m extrapolating some of the claims to potential conclusions. Shofar might not mean it this way, but a number of people will certainly <em>experience</em> it as such.</p>
<blockquote><p>On the day after the incident, I received this word from Jeremiah 1:17-19 NIV: &#8220;Get yourself ready! Stand up and say to them whatever I command you. Do not be terrified by them, or I will terrify you before them. Today I have made you a fortified city, an iron pillar and a bronze wall to stand against the whole land—against the kings of Judah, its officials, its priests and the people of the land. They will fight against you but will not overcome you, for I am with you and will rescue you,&#8221; declares the LORD.</p>
<p>That’s why I’m asking you to pass this mail to as many people as you can. I believe God wants to mobilize many people in the Body of Christ to stand together in prayer to see a dark and ancient stronghold break over this town. That’s why He has allowed this outrage so as to stir us to prayer and action.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your concern and support. I feel we should resist the spirit of lawlessness operating here on another level. As Christian citizens we’re also expected to be custodians of morality, to maintain civilized values.</p>
<p>Yours in Him</p>
<p>Fred May</p></blockquote>
<p>Polarising action. It suddenly becomes a case of &#8220;you&#8217;re either with us, or against us&#8221;. And those that are not with them, those that are skeptical, those that think &#8220;wait a minute, I don&#8217;t think this quite makes sense&#8230;&#8221;, or those that &#8220;wish to believe this is an isolated incident&#8221; rather than a huge demonic conspiracy, as the press release states but the letter to &#8220;friends&#8221; forgets, get painted as &#8220;enemies of the cross&#8221;. Yea, why don&#8217;t we just hand over all those that disagree with Shofar over to be crucified?</p>
<p><em>Dear Fred May,</p>
<p>My apologies if I come across a little strongly on this blog post, but I feel quite strongly about the matter, as I&#8217;m concerned by the wedge this kind of rhetoric can drive into families. Did I misinterpret your message, or is my interpretation accurate? I actually hope I&#8217;m building a bit of an inaccurate straw-man, I hope you don&#8217;t mean it this way, because my intention is rather to sketch out and to warn about how this kind of letter can be misinterpreted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the kind of situation that quickly turns into something looking like a wonderful PR stunt, can have people brandishing pitchforks (figuratively) in no time. It&#8217;s exactly how you engineer mass hysteria to get a journalist fired for campaigning for freedom of religion, for example.</p>
<p>I wish these incidents would stop as much as I hope you do, because it burns down bridges in our community. It causes conflict. May we find peace.</p>
<p>Shalom,<br />
Hugo</em></p>
<p>I forgot, I had promised to point out Shofar&#8217;s roots, which shows how this is just the church coming full circle. Take a look at the <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20041011173742/www.shofarworld.com/about/index.html">About page of Shofar&#8217;s website from November 2004</a>, which is no longer on Shofar&#8217;s current website but is still available courtesy of <a href="http://www.archive.org/">the wayback machine</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1989 the Lord led Pastor Fred May and his wife Lucille to settle in the Stellenbosch area. Both Fred and Lucille had been actively involved in ministry since their conversions and were enjoying a sabbatical at the time. During this break the Lord placed a burden to intercede for Stellenbosch on Ps. Fred’s heart, especially when he saw that occult practitioners had become bold enough to gather in public séances and do door-to-door visits.</p>
<p>By the middle of 1991 Ps. Fred had started to disciple a small group of converts who joined him in spiritual warfare and intercession. The Holy Spirit directed them through prophecy to focus their prayers on the University of Stellenbosch and to take to the streets in praise and worship. In March 1992 God opened a door for this fledgling ministry to register as a student society and start ministering to the students in all earnest.</p>
<p>God, in His wisdom, had chosen to reach the community of Stellenbosch, which was greatly influenced by dead religion and racism, through a life-giving church that was born out of Ps. Fred and Lucille’s cross-cultural marriage. Despite initial misgivings the community of Stellenbosch – which to a large extent is the cradle of traditional religion and apartheid in South Africa – has embraced Shofar Christian Church and its calling to reach all nations and generations.</p>
<p>Shofar reached thousands of students through disciple making and leadership development and in 1998 did its first church plant by multiplying itself to the university’s Tygerberg campus. Shofar Christian Church has since grown into a fully-fledged family church and has planted churches in Worcester, Pretoria, Windhoek and London, while ministries in Retreat, Franschhoek and Macassar have recognized Ps. Fred’s leadership and also joined the ever growing Shofar Family.</p>
<p>Shofar uses Foundations, Cell Groups and Bible Schools to fulfill its vision of taking the whole gospel to the whole world!</p></blockquote>
<p>Notice again all the loaded language, <em>dead religion, racism, the cradle of traditional religion and apartheid</em>. And the occult practitioners. Wherever they were hiding. Only Shofar can see them.</p>
<p>And outsiders, ridicule is pointless. Please don&#8217;t ridicule. I care about insiders, and I don&#8217;t want them ridiculed. The challenge is this: try to find ways to patiently show them how you see this letter. Try to patiently show them what effect it has, or can have. (And if that includes &#8220;this looks absolutely ridiculous to me&#8221;, that&#8217;s okay, say it that way then, but please differentiate from &#8220;you are being absolutely ridiculous&#8221;. That doesn&#8217;t help communication, and I want to open communication channels, not shut them down. From their perspective, we are the ones that are deceived. And yes, maybe I suck at following my own advice, but I try. And I try even harder in comments than in posts, as posts aim to evoke discussion and frame it.)</p>
<p>*sigh*. What&#8217;s the point? <em>The point is to TRY</em>. But I can prophesy that if this discussion does actually take off, I&#8217;ll end up pointing some people to a previous post: <a href="http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/10/07/crossans-definitions-for-literalism-and-fundamentalism/">Crossan’s Definitions for Literalism and Fundamentalism</a>. So why don&#8217;t y&#8217;all go watch that video clip now before commenting, if you haven&#8217;t already done so?</p>
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		<title>The Worst Kind of Poetic Language</title>
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<p>In a post two months ago, I decided to poetically end the post on a little climax, to leave a lingering thought:</p>
<blockquote><p>But if you add one ounce of stress and expectations on my mother&#8217;s already loaded shoulders, I curse you.</p></blockquote>
<p>I spent some time thinking what words to use, that being my first idea. I could not come up with another idea that I felt drove the point home that well, but as with most language, especially strong language, the choice is dangerously culturally sensitive.</p>
<p><strong>The first thing</strong> I should point out is that I don&#8217;t believe in the existence of curses (as in, that someone can place a curse on you). Or rather, in the words of my silly little philosophy: I believe curses do exist, but they exist in Meh, not in Lah, and they&#8217;re not a part of <em>my</em> Meh. For this reason, from my perspective, I might as well have said <em>&#8220;I say <strong>Ni!</strong> to you!&#8221;</em> &#8212; but that, of course, will firstly only be appreciated in Mehs that have assimilated <em>Monty Python and the Holy Grail</em>, and secondly would incorrectly make the climax/sting humorous instead serious. In a later edit, when I was in a calmer or more light-hearted mood, I struck through the original sting and replaced it with <em>I bite my thumb at thee</em>. Also humorous to us, but at least meant more seriously in the context of the work it came from: Shakespeare&#8217;s <em>Romeo and Juliet</em>. Maybe the most accurate would be something more secular and contemporary, like <em>&#8220;I think you&#8217;re a right bastard&#8221;</em> (not in the literal sense of the word).</p>
<p><strong>The second thing</strong> I should point out is: implicitly, that last clause applies to no-one, because I first verified/ensured that my mother is <em>not</em> experiencing any extra weight on her shoulders. That is, after all, my first priority. Retributive justice is actually not my thing. The post was to serve as general advice, general thought provocation, in order to fight (or at least make people aware of) the dangers of any variation of the prosperity gospel. <em>(Summary: by believing and praying correctly, you will get well. The danger: the potential side effect of believing that if you don&#8217;t get well, your belief or your prayer was wrong.)</em></p>
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<p><strong>Just Naive, or Slightly Evil?</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly naive either: I admit I was a little too daring that day. Maybe the fact that I wrote all through the night without sleep played a role. (That&#8217;s an explanation, not an excuse.) I know all too well that Stellenbosch has some churches that still believe in demonic possession, and if you believe in demonic possession, you probably also believe in curses. This means I fully and consciously wrote some &#8220;supposedly innocent words&#8221; that I knew could be misinterpreted, meaning they really weren&#8217;t completely innocent. And I published anyway. Maybe it was to prove a point, maybe it was to demonstrate the dangers of theological differences, or maybe to illustrate the dangers of belief in demons and curses.</p>
<p>What made the sting so poetically powerful was this (at least I thought so): if anyone were to take that sting as <em>literally</em> placing a curse on someone, they surely should also take the conditional clause that introduced it literally. That means any belief in a literally placed curse should, technically, first be preceded by a conscious and actual recognition of the danger of a prosperity gospel (though that recognition could be subsequently forgotten as people start obsessing about a supposed &#8220;curse&#8221;). What an incredibly nasty trick, eh? <em>Nastier than nasty hobbitses&#8230;</em></p>
<p>From a Christian perspective, I think it&#8217;s fair to classify the decision to include that nasty sting as &#8220;unchristian&#8221;. (Translated to secular: it&#8217;s fair to call the decision to include it &#8220;mean-spirited&#8221;.) I should have known better. Maybe I should have been clearer on the fact that my mother did <em>not</em> experience extra stress, and that the sting was just a future warning. Maybe I should have used a different ending right from the start. But&#8230; I didn&#8217;t&#8230; so now I&#8217;m writing this post in an attempt to clarify what I meant and to apologise, and I&#8217;m also taking this opportunity to discuss curses in general.</p>
<p><strong>The Power of a Curse</strong></p>
<p>Curses <em>do</em> exist in some people&#8217;s Meh (their subjective reality). With regards to Meh, <em>The Secret</em> actually does have some truth: you have some power over how you experience things, you effectively create the world-view within which you interpret experiences. For example, having a positive or negative attitude influences the details you notice and the experiences you emphasise, and is often the deciding factor when it comes to interpreting ambiguous things.</p>
<p>By believing in curses, or a particular curse in particular, you interpret things in ways that emphasize and bring out the worst. You expect the worst as well, and that may actually influence behaviour to the point of bringing about negative consequences. People that believe someone else has been cursed might treat that person differently, or may in some way convey their belief in such a curse to the person in question. People believing <em>themselves</em> to be cursed, grants a supposed curse its maximum potency: it brings about a most potent negative attitude, and causes the believer in the curse to look for evidence to confirm their beliefs (known as confirmation bias). Does anyone have some potent examples of the impact of beliefs in curses in African tribes, maybe out of a psychology journal?</p>
<p><strong>Memetic Warfare</strong></p>
<p>So, suppose a particular Meh includes a belief in curses, what to do?</p>
<p>Numerous solutions, depending on the Meh. In a Christian Meh with curse beliefs, the belief that <em>evil and the Holy Spirit cannot inhabit the same body</em> is actually a rather useful one. If you&#8217;ve been filled by the Holy Spirit, it should be impossible to place a curse on you, not so? Any curse should just bounce off your back. A friend of mine recently pondered whether Christianity could not be a potent antidote for some of the African superstitions. Well, it depends, it can be a two-edged sword: a different friend informed me that some Christian churches reinforce superstitions by providing counter-spells to some curses, thereby affirming the existence of the original curse.</p>
<p>I would much rather people simply stopped believing in curses and demons, thereby removing their power completely. This can be accomplished by incorporating more science in your Meh: study more science, and apply skeptical thinking and investigation of claims. I would recommend reading Carl Sagan&#8217;s <em>The Demon-Haunted World</em> (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thinktoomuchn-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0345409469">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://www.kalahari.net/e-trader/referral.asp?toolbar=mweb&#038;linkid=5&#038;partnerid=5831&#038;sku=377606">Kalahari</a>).</p>
<p>Unless, of course, you believe I&#8217;m the deluded one for denying the reality of &#8220;the warfare that takes place in the spiritual realm between angels and demons&#8221; (the kind of dualistic beliefs that studies show is correlated with violence in believing cultures). If that is a reality in our shared Lah (empirical reality), we should be able to test it with a double-blind study, if it hasn&#8217;t been done already.</p>
<p><strong>Performing Double-Blind Studies of Curses</strong></p>
<p>Find a large group of volunteers, and a group of people that supposedly have access to the most potent curses. (Something like witches, we still have them in South Africa.) Randomly split the volunteers into two groups, one group will remain uncursed, the other will have every possible curse placed on the individuals. Who would want to volunteer? Well, anyone that firmly believes there is no such thing as a curse.</p>
<p>In order to objectively test the impact of the curse, neither the subjects cursed nor the people making observations about the impact of the curses should know who is cursed and who is not, so that their subjective beliefs do not impact the results. In fact, we could also test the placebo effect of belief: tell one third of the uncursed group that they are in fact in the group that was cursed, tell one third that they are in the group that was not cursed, and don&#8217;t tell the last third anything about their status. Do the same with the cursed group.</p>
<p>With a large enough group of volunteers and a double-blind test, the &#8220;measurements&#8221; of the impact of being cursed can be done by whatever method, even subjective methods, though a more objectively measurable curse would be the best choice. Statistical analysis of the results would determine whether the curses had any measurable general effect, as well as whether the <em>belief</em> in being cursed had any measurable effect.</p>
<p>A further sub-analysis of volunteers can be made if some of the volunteers actually believe in curses, to see whether believers-in-curses are impacted differently. Believers-in-curses might not volunteer for the study though, for obvious reasons. In either case, should the experimental results on the effect of the curses come out negative, the conclusion would be that it is a perfectly healthy decision to not believe in curses. Should the study clearly show that the cursed people suffer some consequences, I&#8217;m clearly wrong and would have to repent of my unbelief-in-curses.</p>
<p>Has a study like this been done? I wonder, I wouldn&#8217;t be too surprised. A challenge to my readers: find one! (Hehe, the lazy way of doing research.) If it doesn&#8217;t exist, the biggest problem is finding someone who would actually <em>fund</em> a study like this: unbelievers-in-curses would likely think it a waste of money, unless they feel the result will actually be useful in changing someone&#8217;s beliefs. Would believers-in-curses maybe fund something like this?</p>
<p><em>Bonus points for pointing out potential flaws in such a study&#8230; Let&#8217;s discuss!</em></p>
<p><strong>Concluding Remarks</strong></p>
<p>All that said, I still sincerely apologise if the words &#8220;I curse you&#8221; offended anyone. Like I said, I should know better than to provide <em>anyone</em> with an opportunity to put on a shoe like that. I hope the overall effect of my posts at least do more good than harm.</p>
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<em><strong>Further Reading/Watching:</strong> <a href="http://www.reallivepreacher.com/rlparchive/node/862">Real Live Preacher&#8217;s video clip on demons</a>, requesting some sensitivity from readers of the New Testament. (He requests an awareness of ancient worldviews.)</em></p>
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		<title>Seeing Satire in Savage Chickens: Health Plan</title>
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<p><a href="http://www.savagechickens.com/">Savage Chickens</a> doesn&#8217;t usually seem particularly deep, in my experience. Maybe this wasn&#8217;t meant as particularly deep either. Art is like that though: you get to see things in it that weren&#8217;t necessarily explicitly meant by the author. Then again, maybe there is always something deep, and it&#8217;s purely my experience that is lacking? <img src='http://www.thinktoomuch.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I see satire, commenting on a section of the population that subscribes to ancient world-views, where a common diagnosis for some medical condition would be &#8220;possession by a demon&#8221;, with the cure naturally being an exorcism. Our world-view has moved on, and we now have a different way of looking at the world.</p>
<p>My point? You don&#8217;t have to believe in demonic possession to be a Christian. I don&#8217;t. (Though some might want to argue I don&#8217;t adhere to <em>their</em> definition of Christianity. So what?) Go check out <a href="http://www.reallivepreacher.com/">Real Live Preacher</a>&#8216;s clip, <a href="http://reallivepreacher.com/rlparchive/node/862">Reading the Bible &#8211; Demons</a>, part of his series on <a href="http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/03/18/ancient-religious-texts/">How to Read the Bible</a>.</p>
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<p>RLP responded to an anonymous user that asked&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>How do you account for the fact that the demons in these stories spoke? They actually talked back to Jesus. What do you make of that if the demonic is just a matter of &#8220;first century worldview&#8221;?</p>
<p>Also, would you then discount Satan as a personal being?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;with the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>First, I don&#8217;t discount the possibility of the demonic. What I said was as follows:</p>
<p>1. Everyone in the ancient world believed in demons and attributed all sorts of illnesses to them.</p>
<p>2. We know more about diseases now, and we deal with them in other ways.</p>
<p>Those two facts are not disputable.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel that I have to blame everything on the demonic. And I don&#8217;t really think very much about the reality of the demonic when I read these stories. I just read the stories as given.</p>
<p>As for the demons speaking, the gospels record PEOPLE speaking in the voices of demons. Who knows what the reality was.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about Satan. I tend to discount Satan&#8217;s existence as a personal being, yes. But I don&#8217;t care enough about Satan to even have a strong opinion on that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good response, humble as always. Anyway, I also see Satan as a personification of evil, rather than &#8220;a personal being&#8221;. And I think demons do not exist in a physical sense. That doesn&#8217;t rule out their possible existence in some metaphorical sense, of course. <img src='http://www.thinktoomuch.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Comments?</p>
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