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	<title>Comments on: Batten Seminar Coverage in Die Burger</title>
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	<description>Pondering the South African Memesphere - Looking for the Good in Everything</description>
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		<title>By: rosalind franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/27/batten-seminar-coverage-in-die-burger/#comment-9493</link>
		<dc:creator>rosalind franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wel as jy nie eens biologie 101 onder nie knie het nie en dink die aarde is 6000 jaar oud sal jy in jou onkunde glo dr jurie praat stront. feit bly staan hy is &#039;n gerekende, paleontoloog en weet beslis waarvan hy praat.

en dan iets oor BY en die Burger se wetenskap-joernalistiek. johannes is &#039;n goeie joernalis, maar hy is nie &#039;n wetenskap joernalis nie. George Classen was die wetenskapredakteur tot 2005 en hy is pas daar weg. Hy het die Francis Collins-onderhoud gedoen Die wetenskap spesialis is Elsabe Brits (Craig Venter onderhoud).en die Omgewingsjoernalis is Jorsina Bonthuys, en beide is bekroonde skrywers van diepte-artikels in die velde.
Die Burger as die enigste koerant in SA wat nog daarin geslaag het om Collins en Venter, vaders van die menslike genoom, te interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wel as jy nie eens biologie 101 onder nie knie het nie en dink die aarde is 6000 jaar oud sal jy in jou onkunde glo dr jurie praat stront. feit bly staan hy is &#8216;n gerekende, paleontoloog en weet beslis waarvan hy praat.</p>
<p>en dan iets oor BY en die Burger se wetenskap-joernalistiek. johannes is &#8216;n goeie joernalis, maar hy is nie &#8216;n wetenskap joernalis nie. George Classen was die wetenskapredakteur tot 2005 en hy is pas daar weg. Hy het die Francis Collins-onderhoud gedoen Die wetenskap spesialis is Elsabe Brits (Craig Venter onderhoud).en die Omgewingsjoernalis is Jorsina Bonthuys, en beide is bekroonde skrywers van diepte-artikels in die velde.<br />
Die Burger as die enigste koerant in SA wat nog daarin geslaag het om Collins en Venter, vaders van die menslike genoom, te interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Creation Ministries International Strikes Stellenbosch Again &#8212; Noah&#8217;s Flood?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creation Ministries International Strikes Stellenbosch Again &#8212; Noah&#8217;s Flood?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, I went to chat to vdHeever the other day. He told me about that discussion/debate between the rabbi, the creationist, an himself (palaeontologist). Naturally he had a rather different take on the discussion. He mentioned the rabbi, who specialises in the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament), gave the creationist hell for abusing the text... I dunno.

More interesting was what he said the responses/discussion contained, what the impression was of the audience. It was a discussion at a Jewish school or something, if my vague memory isn&#039;t letting me down? They certainly didn&#039;t think the creationist had much of a convincing case.

However, typically that doesn&#039;t stop creationists from reporting a victory back home. ;)

Wish I was there to see it for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, I went to chat to vdHeever the other day. He told me about that discussion/debate between the rabbi, the creationist, an himself (palaeontologist). Naturally he had a rather different take on the discussion. He mentioned the rabbi, who specialises in the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament), gave the creationist hell for abusing the text&#8230; I dunno.</p>
<p>More interesting was what he said the responses/discussion contained, what the impression was of the audience. It was a discussion at a Jewish school or something, if my vague memory isn&#8217;t letting me down? They certainly didn&#8217;t think the creationist had much of a convincing case.</p>
<p>However, typically that doesn&#8217;t stop creationists from reporting a victory back home. <img src='http://www.thinktoomuch.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Wish I was there to see it for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/27/batten-seminar-coverage-in-die-burger/#comment-6512</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Net nuuskierig: wat was die onderwerp van die debat? (Wat was die standpunt wat vdHeever ondersteun het, en wat het die Rabbi ondersteun?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Net nuuskierig: wat was die onderwerp van die debat? (Wat was die standpunt wat vdHeever ondersteun het, en wat het die Rabbi ondersteun?)</p>
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		<title>By: Rad Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/27/batten-seminar-coverage-in-die-burger/#comment-6504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rad Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ek het &#039;n praatjie/debat tussen Van Der Heever, &#039;n Kreasionis van Shofar en &#039;n joodse rabbi bygewoon. Dit was &#039;n absolute poppekas. 

Van Der Heever het stront gepraat en amper die rabbi gemoer.

Die rabbi het self meer stront gepraat, en is amper gemoer. 

Die kreasionis, wel hyt maar net daar gesit.

Punt is, dit was &#039;n poppekas. 

Van der Heever is maar belaglik.

En ek; ek is biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ek het &#8216;n praatjie/debat tussen Van Der Heever, &#8216;n Kreasionis van Shofar en &#8216;n joodse rabbi bygewoon. Dit was &#8216;n absolute poppekas. </p>
<p>Van Der Heever het stront gepraat en amper die rabbi gemoer.</p>
<p>Die rabbi het self meer stront gepraat, en is amper gemoer. </p>
<p>Die kreasionis, wel hyt maar net daar gesit.</p>
<p>Punt is, dit was &#8216;n poppekas. </p>
<p>Van der Heever is maar belaglik.</p>
<p>En ek; ek is biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Rinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lesser issue with people like this if they &#039;tell them what they want to hear&#039; to get their respected credentials.

What I do have a larger problem with, is the use of these credentials to &#039;boost&#039; their believability. In my opinion this is not only misleading, but downright dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lesser issue with people like this if they &#8216;tell them what they want to hear&#8217; to get their respected credentials.</p>
<p>What I do have a larger problem with, is the use of these credentials to &#8216;boost&#8217; their believability. In my opinion this is not only misleading, but downright dishonest.</p>
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