Comments on: Creationists and Liars http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/ Pondering the South African Memesphere - Looking for the Good in Everything Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:43:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Creation Ministries International Strikes Stellenbosch Again — Noah’s Flood? http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-12602 Creation Ministries International Strikes Stellenbosch Again — Noah’s Flood? Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:21:21 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-12602 [...] Creationists and Liars - a general piece about quote mining and two logical fallacies, things used in the talk [...] [...] Creationists and Liars – a general piece about quote mining and two logical fallacies, things used in the talk [...]

]]> By: Do Any Shofarians Care About Science? http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-6866 Do Any Shofarians Care About Science? Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:32:50 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-6866 [...] Creationists and Liars - a general piece about quote mining and two logical fallacies, things used in the talk [...] [...] Creationists and Liars – a general piece about quote mining and two logical fallacies, things used in the talk [...]

]]> By: Creationists Believe Lions Originally Ate Plants http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5824 Creationists Believe Lions Originally Ate Plants Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:50:47 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5824 [...] think Pienk Zuit might have the potentially most interesting question, but even that has a relatively predictable answer: Do you honestly believe there is a massive, [...] [...] think Pienk Zuit might have the potentially most interesting question, but even that has a relatively predictable answer: Do you honestly believe there is a massive, [...]

]]> By: Johan Swarts http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5822 Johan Swarts Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:54:44 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5822 You have been tagged. Sien my blog vir meer ;) You have been tagged. Sien my blog vir meer ;)

]]> By: Pienk Zuit http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5821 Pienk Zuit Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:24:40 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5821 Dammit, ek kan nie glo ek het dit weer gemis nie! Ek het gesien daar is weer 'n sirkus in die Neelsie, en toe vergeet ek net skoon daardie dag om te gaan. Herinner my asb volgende keer. Ek wil net 1 eenvoudige vraag vra by die volgende sirkus : "Do you honestly believe there is a massive, worldwide conspiracy that runs accross many unrelated branches of science, to interpret a huge volume of knowledge incorrectly just to be contrary to the literal interpretation of the first few chapters of the Bible?" Dammit, ek kan nie glo ek het dit weer gemis nie! Ek het gesien daar is weer ‘n sirkus in die Neelsie, en toe vergeet ek net skoon daardie dag om te gaan. Herinner my asb volgende keer. Ek wil net 1 eenvoudige vraag vra by die volgende sirkus : “Do you honestly believe there is a massive, worldwide conspiracy that runs accross many unrelated branches of science, to interpret a huge volume of knowledge incorrectly just to be contrary to the literal interpretation of the first few chapters of the Bible?”

]]> By: Johan Swarts http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5820 Johan Swarts Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:52:05 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5820 Exactly. I look forward to your post... Exactly. I look forward to your post…

]]> By: Hugo http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5810 Hugo Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:41:32 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5810 What is pretty sweet, is one accusation of "lying" directed at teachers of evolution in schools. (I think he's referring to other countries, this country hasn't been teaching evolution for long.) This gives me an example of his definition of lying, which I can then use to calibrate the line between "liar" and "not liar"... What is pretty sweet, is one accusation of “lying” directed at teachers of evolution in schools. (I think he’s referring to other countries, this country hasn’t been teaching evolution for long.) This gives me an example of his definition of lying, which I can then use to calibrate the line between “liar” and “not liar”…

]]> By: Johan Swarts http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5809 Johan Swarts Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:37:59 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5809 I quite enjoyed the sex example, thank you very much :p (Yes, I do think you can deduce him a liar.) I quite enjoyed the sex example, thank you very much :p

(Yes, I do think you can deduce him a liar.)

]]> By: Hugo http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5792 Hugo Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:50:52 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2008/03/08/creationists-and-liars/#comment-5792 For those that are wondering how I ended up pulling sex into this thing: I was looking for an example of something that many/most people originally do not understand, but eventually do. That basically meant something we don't understand when we are younger. I thought of mathematical stuff, but the non-maths-people wouldn't get it. Anything else we learn in school? Then I shifted to technical stuff, things like how the flush-toilet works came to mind -- I had a there Eureka moment as I grew up, but that isn't necessarily a sentiment shared by other people. How about how a car works? Well, what about a car? Spark plugs and the internal combustion engine? Some people probably still don't know that either. And here's where the idea struck: cars are also man-made. I thought I should go for something more organic, more natural. Something in biology? In natural sciences? That's when the idea of using sex hit me. It is something every young-enough kid doesn't understand (at least not on the emotional, experiential level, even if they were brought up with in-depth biological knowledge from a very young age), but that every adult <em>should</em> understand. For those that are wondering how I ended up pulling sex into this thing: I was looking for an example of something that many/most people originally do not understand, but eventually do. That basically meant something we don’t understand when we are younger.

I thought of mathematical stuff, but the non-maths-people wouldn’t get it. Anything else we learn in school? Then I shifted to technical stuff, things like how the flush-toilet works came to mind — I had a there Eureka moment as I grew up, but that isn’t necessarily a sentiment shared by other people. How about how a car works? Well, what about a car? Spark plugs and the internal combustion engine? Some people probably still don’t know that either. And here’s where the idea struck: cars are also man-made. I thought I should go for something more organic, more natural. Something in biology? In natural sciences? That’s when the idea of using sex hit me. It is something every young-enough kid doesn’t understand (at least not on the emotional, experiential level, even if they were brought up with in-depth biological knowledge from a very young age), but that every adult should understand.

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