Comments on: CS Lewis’ Mistake? http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/ Pondering the South African Memesphere - Looking for the Good in Everything Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:43:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WillaLinstrom@gmail.com http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52845 WillaLinstrom@gmail.com Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:07:29 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52845 Okiedokie :) So you say Astrology is no science and you define what science is supposed to be. Be that as it may, I can still see the patterning in people's shared birth star charts. Have a couple of amazing books on star charts, written by a man (American - name of Grant Lewi) who believed in no Creator as i do, but knowledgeable about the patterns & configurations devised by Astrology. He said it was a science. And claimed that spiritual stuff was a lot of nonsense. I don't care what he said about my spiritual beliefs. But he certainly had some amazing things to show. In any case, my star chart 'predicted' that i need to name things before i could even look at them. That was true, so i modified myself a little, to be less 'labellious' (hehe). I am a Leo with Moon in Aries and Pisces Rising. The other planets' positions at the day time and place of my birth, in the little town of Christiana in South Africa, made a lot of sense. My Leo/Aries Sun/Moon partnership caused my tendency to be especially intense in a competitive way, getting very passionate and worked up in an argument one moment, extremely tiresome to most peoples. The next moment I'd forgot all about the argument and be as sweet as 'n honey-bun :). I couldn't succeed in modifying that and there are still not a lot of people who are comfortable with me just being myself. That is the long story to explain myself to you, because you are obviously very clued up on CS Lewis, a most important person in the life of my literary hero JRRTolkien! Thanks for the chat! Okiedokie :) So you say Astrology is no science and you define what science is supposed to be. Be that as it may, I can still see the patterning in people’s shared birth star charts. Have a couple of amazing books on star charts, written by a man (American – name of Grant Lewi) who believed in no Creator as i do, but knowledgeable about the patterns & configurations devised by Astrology. He said it was a science. And claimed that spiritual stuff was a lot of nonsense. I don’t care what he said about my spiritual beliefs. But he certainly had some amazing things to show.

In any case, my star chart ‘predicted’ that i need to name things before i could even look at them. That was true, so i modified myself a little, to be less ‘labellious’ (hehe). I am a Leo with Moon in Aries and Pisces Rising. The other planets’ positions at the day time and place of my birth, in the little town of Christiana in South Africa, made a lot of sense. My Leo/Aries Sun/Moon partnership caused my tendency to be especially intense in a competitive way, getting very passionate and worked up in an argument one moment, extremely tiresome to most peoples. The next moment I’d forgot all about the argument and be as sweet as ‘n honey-bun :) . I couldn’t succeed in modifying that and there are still not a lot of people who are comfortable with me just being myself.

That is the long story to explain myself to you, because you are obviously very clued up on CS Lewis, a most important person in the life of my literary hero JRRTolkien!

Thanks for the chat!

]]> By: Hugo http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52809 Hugo Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:00:59 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52809 Ah Willa, I don't mean I don't want to chat, I'm rather just showing my standard reaction to my old posts. ;) I'd be happy to chat and figure out my current opinions. Labelling is spelt right, yes. Astrology: I certainly don't call that a science. (Subscribing to Karl Popper's philosophy of science, Astrology isn't falsifiable, doesn't make predictions that says "if you test it in such-and-such a way, and you don't get such-and-such a result, then the astrology hypothesis has proven wrong".) What more would you like to discuss? Ah Willa, I don’t mean I don’t want to chat, I’m rather just showing my standard reaction to my old posts. ;) I’d be happy to chat and figure out my current opinions.

Labelling is spelt right, yes.

Astrology: I certainly don’t call that a science. (Subscribing to Karl Popper’s philosophy of science, Astrology isn’t falsifiable, doesn’t make predictions that says “if you test it in such-and-such a way, and you don’t get such-and-such a result, then the astrology hypothesis has proven wrong”.)

What more would you like to discuss?

]]> By: Willa http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52791 Willa Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:49:08 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52791 Hi Hugo, I'm not sure i understand what you mean. But if you do not 'even want to *try* to describe the thoughts I had around the more contentious aspects of this post." there is nothing more to be said between us, is there. Sorry about that, though Hi Hugo,
I’m not sure i understand what you mean. But if you do not ‘even want to *try* to describe the thoughts I had around the more contentious aspects of this post.” there is nothing more to be said between us, is there. Sorry about that, though

]]> By: Hugo http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52576 Hugo Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:57:03 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52576 *cringe* @ ancient blog posts of mine. ;) I'm not sure I even want to *try* to describe the thoughts I had around the more contentious aspects of this post. *cringe* @ ancient blog posts of mine. ;) I’m not sure I even want to *try* to describe the thoughts I had around the more contentious aspects of this post.

]]> By: Willa http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52575 Willa Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:33:53 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-52575 I googled CS Lewis and landed with you lot! Kinda interesting. You hit onto a VERY important word: label - labelling. All of you made thought provoking observations. I liked what I saw up top 'say what you like but BE FRIENDLY'. Oh, how I liked that. I hate nastiness, sharp tonge cutters like scalpels,hatehatehate. Gatvol daarvoor. This thing of labelling. Is it not so VERY easy to label. Too easy. If you think for yourself and keep on thinking for yourself sooner or later you catch yourself - labelling. Hehehe. But its GOOD to be BEWARE of LABELLING (or is it spelt with one L - help?) In Astrology (interesting science I'm sure. Having some point) they say that some planetary configurations bring about more label inclined individuals than others. I found that to be true... But I'm a believer first and foremost in Jesus Christ Super Star, our inexplicable and stupendously wonderful Morning Star - Earendil. Love u'all I googled CS Lewis and landed with you lot! Kinda interesting. You hit onto a VERY important word: label – labelling. All of you made thought provoking observations. I liked what I saw up top ‘say what you like but BE FRIENDLY’. Oh, how I liked that. I hate nastiness, sharp tonge cutters like scalpels,hatehatehate. Gatvol daarvoor.

This thing of labelling. Is it not so VERY easy to label. Too easy. If you think for yourself and keep on thinking for yourself sooner or later you catch yourself – labelling. Hehehe. But its GOOD to be BEWARE of LABELLING (or is it spelt with one L – help?)

In Astrology (interesting science I’m sure. Having some point) they say that some planetary configurations bring about more label inclined individuals than others. I found that to be true…

But I’m a believer first and foremost in Jesus Christ Super Star, our inexplicable and stupendously wonderful Morning Star – Earendil.

Love u’all

]]> By: lousirr http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3467 lousirr Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:19:44 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3467 What do you think? Wash, rinse, repeat? Hehe, I suppose it may be inevitable anyway? What do you think?
Wash, rinse, repeat?
Hehe, I suppose
it may be
inevitable
anyway?

]]> By: Linda http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3466 Linda Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:43:31 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3466 Gosh, Hugo! You scare me sometimes with your radical randomness (or random radicalness). :-) People think you're crazy, but I understand where you're coming from, so does that make me crazy??? Gosh, Hugo! You scare me sometimes with your radical randomness (or random radicalness). :-) People think you’re crazy, but I understand where you’re coming from, so does that make me crazy???

]]> By: lousirr http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3465 lousirr Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:28:20 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3465 Freeeeeeeeeddddoooooooooooommmmmmmm! Sorry, just had to do that. Freeeeeeeeeddddoooooooooooommmmmmmm!

Sorry, just had to do that.

]]> By: lousirr http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3445 lousirr Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:37:59 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3445 Hear! Blessed is Linda! For she has seen. The Truth. A glimmer of hope! Grasp! Run with it! For that? is life is freedom. The Meh. Hear!
Blessed is Linda!
For she has seen.
The Truth.
A glimmer
of hope!

Grasp!
Run with it!
For that?
is life
is freedom.
The Meh.

]]> By: Linda http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3444 Linda Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:31:00 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-3444 I am a huge fan of C.S. Lewis' books, but I have recently had similar questions about his inability to think outside of his "religious" thought. Someone above asked: <blockquote>Aren't we all guilty of thinking in labels?</blockquote> Yes, I think we are... Is it possible to get away from it? I've tried but have not succeeded, so I have decided to just accept it for now. The question for me is: Do the labels have control over us, or do we have control over the labels? I am a huge fan of C.S. Lewis’ books, but I have recently had similar questions about his inability to think outside of his “religious” thought.

Someone above asked:

Aren’t we all guilty of thinking in labels?

Yes, I think we are… Is it possible to get away from it? I’ve tried but have not succeeded, so I have decided to just accept it for now.

The question for me is: Do the labels have control over us, or do we have control over the labels?

]]> By: Hugo http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2546 Hugo Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:10:41 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2546 Sharp, and so true! (Tell that to Google..., btw.) So how would you guys like to tag me then? ;-) Sharp, and so true! (Tell that to Google…, btw.)

So how would you guys like to tag me then? ;-)

]]> By: Charl Botha http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2545 Charl Botha Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:02:45 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2545 You're all so web 1.0. Tags is where it's at, not labels. You’re all so web 1.0.

Tags is where it’s at, not labels.

]]> By: Negate http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2472 Negate Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:55:36 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2472 Don't think their is any problems with labels, but more with how they are being used. No one person can be summed up in one label. Then you get the general error, where if some or most people act a certain way under a label it is assumed that all people under the label act that way. Don't think there is enough space on my body for all the labels that i must wear if i wanted to be interpreted for who i am. When someone is not taken seriously, you get away with labeling the opposition and passing your prejudice as a joke or insult. Aren't we all guilty of thinking in labels? Don’t think their is any problems with labels, but more with how they are being used. No one person can be summed up in one label. Then you get the general error, where if some or most people act a certain way under a label it is assumed that all people under the label act that way.

Don’t think there is enough space on my body for all the labels that i must wear if i wanted to be interpreted for who i am.

When someone is not taken seriously, you get away with labeling the opposition and passing your prejudice as a joke or insult.

Aren’t we all guilty of thinking in labels?

]]> By: Hugo http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2442 Hugo Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:51:38 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2442 Ah, thanks for persevering. I understand now, I think. Yes, CS Lewis would certainly have been aware that words do not really carry any meaning. (They are merely used as pointers to meaning. Words are defined by the way words are used.) He was certainly aware of that. But we are all fallable. I suggest had he taken it a little further, it may have helped his case. I agree "a critical error" is rather strongly stated. I should get around to pointing out where I differ from the good professor within the week. In the mean time, keep it up! Be bold! Be critical! Yes, that includes you, you lurker! Drop your pride, accept you may also make mistakes, and give us your opinion! That is the best way to learn... Ah, thanks for persevering. I understand now, I think.

Yes, CS Lewis would certainly have been aware that words do not really carry any meaning. (They are merely used as pointers to meaning. Words are defined by the way words are used.)

He was certainly aware of that. But we are all fallable. I suggest had he taken it a little further, it may have helped his case. I agree “a critical error” is rather strongly stated.

I should get around to pointing out where I differ from the good professor within the week.

In the mean time, keep it up! Be bold! Be critical! Yes, that includes you, you lurker! Drop your pride, accept you may also make mistakes, and give us your opinion! That is the best way to learn…

]]> By: Steve http://www.thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2440 Steve Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:35:58 +0000 http://thinktoomuch.net/2007/10/30/cs-lewis-mistake/#comment-2440 You seem to have misunderstood my question. I was trying to ask whether you think that CS Lewis was unaware that his labels were not exact. Your post seems to indicate this (you call it a "critical error"). The alternative possibility I suggest is that he was well aware of the shortcoming of labels, but had to use something in his writing. You seem to have misunderstood my question. I was trying to ask whether you think that CS Lewis was unaware that his labels were not exact.

Your post seems to indicate this (you call it a “critical error”).

The alternative possibility I suggest is that he was well aware of the shortcoming of labels, but had to use something in his writing.

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